I became a cabinet maker and, at a certain point, that could’ve just become my career. I felt like, there’s this creative side of me that’s not happening. And I was trying to paint and do other creative things but I felt like I was not using what I knew, whether it was my ability to make things or my creativity. I was making kitchens for wealthy peoples’ third homes that don’t even like to cook. So I applied to grad school and I got into all of my choices.